When is sharing free?

**dessertrat** · 11-20-2011, 06:00 AM

Something is not free if you have to give something in exchange. Then it should only be sharing, not free sharing.

Why is so difficult for a beginner to obtain a cline that works? In the beginning when you have little or nothing to offer, their is no help at all. What I cannot understand is that a paid cline works everytime, but that you cannot get, for instance, Server three cline to work.

Is a forum not build on the way the new guys are being serviced and helped on their way to become full and usefull members? I understand fully the difference between the have and the have-nots and that it is difficult to share something with some-one that you do not know, but is that not the purpose of a forum like Satlovers.

**toby69** · 11-20-2011, 01:06 PM

agree with you to a point, but if you are lucky enough to have a paid card-sub, then freecard sharing will be availble, that is if someone wants to share your package you can provide, with the package you want to receive from 2nd party, his share should then be just as good as yours, then the free bit kicks in for yourself, im paying a sub, cant afford network card,

**runmo** · 11-20-2011, 01:29 PM

Server 3 is working!
you should try different c-lines out from server.
Lines are also updated (almost) every day.
Maybe somethimes server 3 is offline but that's the same for satlovers servers. Technical problem can happen.
And yes it are free c-lines. Also the ones for servers 4, 2 and 1.
It's normal satlovers asks some involvement for personal c-lines.
If you don't like this way of working, feel free to look for other option.
I'm sure you will be able to get such line with a little effort, others could, also members with less knowledge about satellite topics.
Where's a will there's a way....

**dessertrat** · 11-20-2011, 03:00 PM

Ahh... at last a reply.
Does server 3 cline work on Multichoice on 68.5E?
I it does it would be my prefered server.
Thanx

**findeciclo** · 11-20-2011, 03:36 PM

I think sharing must be free if both of them are sharing their cards, one to the other.
In this forum you are not sharing your card, c-cline with the other, you only get a c-line without sharing nothing else that your collaboration, knowledge, etc...
So these satlover c-lines are free, because you are not giving nothing to the forum. In what forum they give you so much for so little?
If you want something you must fight for it or pay per view.
You can choose the way.....
And a newbie should not criticize the site wanted to come and freely accepted the rules as they are.
It seems to me that there are rules that don't favored me, but I follow them uncritically and without trying to change something which just arrived.
First part, read, learn and then bring your knowledge or your files, and more ....
For all it has been difficult to become what we are in the forum, but here we are with the intention of serving others and not taking advantage of others.

This is Satlover forum, and it is the best forum all over the net.
Regards and be patient.

**dessertrat** · 11-20-2011, 04:20 PM

Thanks for your response, but we live in a changing world where nothing remains the same.

It is difficult for any beginner to grow his knowledge if pertinent questions (above)are not answered.

We can only learn from experienced guys. It is a two-way process.

if I broke any rules, I am sorry.

**sqazilou** · 11-20-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dessertrat [Only Registered Users Can See LinksClick Here To Register]

Thanks for your response, but we live in a changing world where nothing remains the same.

It is difficult for any beginner to grow his knowledge if pertinent questions (above)are not answered.

We can only learn from experienced guys. It is a two-way process.

if I broke any rules, I am sorry.

for your information when i came first time on this forum it was because i found satlovers cline posted on another website, i didnt knew anything about card sharing, cline or cccam

i learned here with other users tutorials & help.

so i think if there is one place to start and to be its this forum.

**toby69** · 11-21-2011, 10:47 AM

68.5e= intelsat7/10 c/ku.
the only chn i see on mulitichoice is sky news international, 10970v30000 5/6. dvb-s/mpeg2 , south africa. i cannot try as not possible for my location.
check (flysat.com) packages list.

**dessertrat** · 11-21-2011, 05:40 PM

It breaks my heart, but server three and four does not open Multichoice on 68E

**sqazilou** · 11-21-2011, 06:49 PM

try to ask for premium servers packages maybe it will open 68E

**toby69** · 11-21-2011, 06:52 PM

thats a shame, but i could not see much worth while on 68.5e, why dont you chech on other sats for chns you want and also check out footprints to see if you can receive.

**dessertrat** · 11-22-2011, 03:40 AM

Supersport 1 - 4 is excellent sport channels for cricket and rugby. that is all i really watch from time to time. I have a paid line that works, but 15 Eu a month is to much for the amount of viewing I do.

I can see eutelsat w2a, w3a, intelsat New Dawn, and Telstar 11 N, 12 from here. Which would these lines open easily.

I am 260Km from the nearest big town, so every change is a project.

Thanx for responding.

**toby69** · 11-22-2011, 11:37 AM

eutelsatw2a=10east
" w3a=7east
intelsat new dawn=32.9east
telstar11n=37.5west
" 12=15west
i am receiving super sports 1-5 from eutelsat 16east w3cbeam, trans 10845h27500.
the box i have supplys these free (a system called ethernet) no sub required.

**dessertrat** · 11-22-2011, 01:39 PM

The dreambox was all that I could get here at the time, and being new to this I thought it would be easy to get right key.

What system do u use? Can you view encrypted stations also?

Thanx for your patience

**toby69** · 11-22-2011, 05:24 PM

my receiver is a spiderbox7000hd, when you set it up you install s/w called a patch, an then you connect throu the web to there own server. this forum has a spiderbox section in english chat a few pages back, but not a lot of info there. let me know an i can pm a forum with plenty info. yes you can enter clines/newcamd lines, to decrypt chns (stations) toby69. ps is that beam w3c on eutelsat16east receivable in your location?